Dear Robert,
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO US?
We have become real estate junkies!! We read our first
book from you last
June and we have purchased 21 properties and counting.
Our story is simple. I have been in the real estate business since 1986. I
had never purchased a piece of real estate for investment, only for primary
residence.
My wife has been in the yachting, hotel ownership and
timeshare business. In 2002 I went to work for a land developer which is
what I call my day job.
Now we are very blessed as this creates a very good
income for my family which allows us the extra funds to get started in our
ventures.
We also had pretty good credit. One of the bonuses we
get is an incentive to practice what we preach when selling to investors. He
allows us to purchase a lot from him with us using our commission as a down
payment.
He also pays the first 12 interest payments. You must
still obtain your own financing, but basically the first years costs are
only taxes & HOA fees.
Now this is also a great deal for the clients, because
they get the payments as well even though they must put down 10%. Land
along the waterway in Myrtle Beach has been and will continue to increase
very rapidly.
So in January of 2003 we bought our first lot in Myrtle Beach, SC for
$62,880. We closed on it January 7, 2003. We used our commission
for the down payment and received the 12 interest payments.
Since we were not using any of our money for this
transaction, we decided to purchase another lot in Greenwood, SC on Lake
Greenwood for $91,880 with the same deal.
We bought one more in June in Palm Coast, FL for
$78,880 again with the same deal from the developer. We bought this
one with Lisa’s brother, so we could pay for their new baby’s college.
We now considered ourselves big time real estate investors. We owned 4
pieces of property including our primary residence.
THEN WE READ
YOU’RE BOOK AND EVERYTHING CHANGED!!
My wife Lisa picked up a book titled “Rich Dad’s Prophecy”.
She could
not put it down. She then bought “Rich
Dad’s Retire Young, Retire
Rich” and read it.
Now we are in June of 2003. We took the family on a
vacation to Lake Hartwell, SC where we rented a lake house. Did I mention we
have 5 children ages 7, 9, 10, 11 & 15?
While we were there, she handed me “Retire Young,
Retire Rich”
and my context changed instantly! I looked at Lisa
and said we are paying for this guy’s lake house and he can use it whenever
he wants. My eyes opened up.
Now Lisa was already on the positive side of this, while I was thinking of
the risk. I had taken a chance on a business in 1985 and it forced me
into bankruptcy. I was a little bit hesitant and scared. But with her
encouragement and support we decide to make a move into your world.
WE GOT OFF THE POT
AND GOT
STARTED!!
PROPERTY #4
Since I am in the real estate business all I knew was the MLS, so we started
looking and found a brand new home that had been purchased.
The owner moved in and was transferred by his company 1
month later. We were told by their agent that this home was being
controlled by a relocation company. They were asking $119,900.
This model was being sold brand new for $135,000 with
no upgrades. We made them an offer and finished at $116,500 with them paying
$1,800 of closing costs.
We put 10% down and financed it for 30 years fixed at
6.35%. We rented it before the first payment was due for $1,100 per month.
Our monthly payment with everything included is $921. We said this was good
and the mortgage company said we could do 3 more of these. Wow. This was in
August of 2003.
PROPERTY #5
I also read in the book where sometimes you need partners. I was
looking for lots on the Intracoastal Waterway for a client, and ran into a
guy that said he was getting divorced and his wife would get the proceeds,
so he wanted to dump it.
Now these lots had been selling for $279 to $299,000. I
asked him what he would take for it, and he said for $200,000 it’s yours.
Now we did not have the $20,000 to put down, and we did not know about
financing on the appraised value instead of the contract purchase price.
So I asked 3 of my partners I work with if they wanted
to go in with me and they said yes. We went to a different bank and
were approved immediately. We did an interest only loan for 3 years at
4.8%. The payment is $184 per month for each of us. This was in September of
2003
PROPERTY #6
We live in a nice neighborhood and noticed one weekend a sign that said
absolute auction of a house on our street. We decide to check it out, and
found out this 2400’ home was appraised at $215,000.
We decided to put our name down as a bidder. We had set
our maximum at $178,000 and when the bidding started, it was down to two of
us in about an hour.
Finally at 10:30pm that night the other guy dropped out
at $177,500. We owned another home. We decided we were going to sell
this one.
My wife said let’s put a for rent sign in the yard
until we close and ask our minimum we try to get which is around $200 over
the payment. So we asked $1,700 per month.
Before we closed, we had a two year lease on the
property at $1,700 per month. We put 10% down on this home and the
interest rate was around 6.5% fixed for 30 years. Our total payment on this
is $1506 per month. This was in September of 2003.
PROPERTY #7 & #8
My mother Nancy had been renting since we moved to Myrtle Beach in 1998. With our new found courage, my wife said let’s find a duplex for her to live
in.
She can own one side and we will own the other. We purchased a duplex
that had been recently renovated and was all brick for $134,900. We were
able to finance her side with 5% down and our side for 10% down. We rented
our side for $750 per month. We financed this in her name at 6.25% for 30
years.
I am on the deed and mortgage, but not the note. The payment on our
side is $538 and her side is $564. We are still in September of 2003.
BUYING HOMES BY THE NUMBERS!!
In the same neighborhood as #4 we met the builder direct. We found him
willing to negotiate if we would take 3 houses at once. We picked the floor
plan and lots to build on.
We purchased the homes $5000 under value with the
stipulation they also pay 3% in closing costs and pay me a 4% commission on
each home.
So we are paying $123,500 for each home minus the 3% and the 4%
which brings the real amount to $114,855. We staggered the closing dates of
these homes to May 1st of 2004, August 1st, 2004 and September 1st of 2004.
We have already taken a security deposit on the one for May 1st. They are
now selling in the range of $135 to $140,000. This is September 2003.
WE SOLD SOMETHING!!
As I said earlier I am working for a land developer. They had run out of
inventory and asked me to sell some of our lots. Remember the one we paid
$62,880 for. It sold for $94,880 so we did a 1031 exchange in to property
#12.
The lot we paid $78,880 for in FL we sold for $129,900. We did a 1031
exchange in to property #13. By now I guess you can imagine we own almost
all of your books and the advisors books and have been studying our new
field. This is November of 2003
HERE COMES THE TEAM!!
We followed your advice and have hired a great attorney who specializes in
real estate and estate planning. He also handles setting up the LLC’s and
handles the 1031 exchanges.
We formed 2 real estate companies. The 1st is JLS Enterprises Inc. This company is for my day job income and any personal
real estate dealings.
The 2nd company is All Team Realty Inc. which belongs
to the MLS and NAR. This company was set up to hire agents and work with
other investors. We found a great accounting firm and our agent specializes
in real estate investors.
One of our tenants owns a handyman service and
works for us almost full time now. We have 2 insurance companies that handle
our rentals and liabilities issues. We have found a community bank that
wants to work with us long term. They are willing to go by the appraised
value instead of the contract price. It is based on 5% for 1 year with 80%
LTV.
PROPERTY #12
With the $23,000 we had from the sale of the lot, we bought a brand new home
in a Centex community. This subdivision is in the fastest growing area of
Myrtle Beach called Carolina Forest.
We purchased this home for $122,260 and
before it closed the appraisal was at $130,000. We had to use their bank to
get the options, so I felt this is a lousy loan package.
We had to put 20%
down and the rate is 8.3% fixed for 2 years only. We will re-finance next
year. We rented it immediately for 2 years at $1000 for the 1st year and
$1050 for the 2nd year.
This community is brand new and away from everything
at this time. Our payment is $925 per month. This is January of 2004
PROPERTY #13
We had profited from the sale of the Florida lot in the area of $37,000 so
we bought another lot on Lake Wylie in North Carolina. We paid $159,880 for
this lot and the one beside us just sold for $189,880 with less waterfront
and view.
This was from my developer, so I received a $10,000 commission I
put in my pocket and we still received the first 12 interest payments. The
interest rate is 4.75% for 3 years interest only. This was also with Lisa’s
brother. This is January of 2004.
NOW WE ARE LOOKING ALL THE TIME FOR THE NEXT DEAL!!
PROPERTY #14
While working other properties with my developer in North Carolina, we found
that the new neighborhood we were opening was in the best school district.
They expected to sell it out in one weekend because of the new lines being
drawn for the schools.
We purchased another lot for $139,880 with the
developer paying my down payment and first 12 interest payments. The rate on
this lot is 4.65% interest only for 3 years. We expect to sell this one in
the fall of 2004 for $199,880. This is February 2004.
PROPERTY #15
A new partner comes on the scene. A friend of mine that my wife and I had
trained in the timeshare business is doing very well. We were talking about
what Lisa and I were doing and he wanted in.
So this was the deal we made.
He would put up all of the money, and when we sold the property we would
split the profits 50-50. No we are not taking advantage of him; we are doing
all of the work and will send him his checks.
We found another home in
perfect condition in the same neighborhood as #4. We made a low ball offer
and it was accepted at $115,000. He put 10% down and we financed it for 30
years at 6.5% fixed.
Before we closed we had rented it to Hitachi
Corporation for one of their employees. The rent is $1100 per month. Our
total payment is $890. This is February 2004.
PROPERTY #16
The partners I am working with in my day job are starting to take notice.
Because we all make very good earned income they wanted to purchase another
property with me.
We bought another lot in the Charlotte North Carolina
area. This one over looks a lake. The developer paid the 10% down plus the
first 12 interest payments. We paid $199,880 for the lot.
The one next to us
was purchased by Hersey Hawkins the famous basketball star for $269,880.
This loan is also at 4.65% interest only for 3 years. We expect to sell this
lot in the fall of 2004 for $299,880.
After property #12 was purchased one
of my partners in my day job bought 3 homes for rentals in the same
subdivision as #12 which we manage for him.
Now he paid too much for these,
but he has not read any of your books. This is March of 2004.
FORECLOSURES AND COURT HOUSE SALES!!
As you taught us to expand our context we also expanded our risk. We started
going to the monthly court house auction in November of 2003.
We just
watched and listened. In March of 2004 we said lets give it a shot. We had
done the research and we pay a company for the most up to date info on
foreclosures.
My Sundays of watching football or the races was delegated to
driving around and looking at properties. I watched the games later on tape.
March 17, 2004. This is a special day. Not only is it St. Patrick’s day, it
is also the anniversary of the first day my wife and I kissed. Any way back
to business. We went to the auction and bought 2 houses.
PROPERTY #17
As we were driving around checking out the foreclosure list we noticed this
home on a corner lot that the tax record showed at about 1450 square feet.
It did not look right as the 3 homes we are building are 1435 square feet
and this home looked larger. My estimate was around 1900 square feet from
experience. When it came time to bid on this home I would have went to
$150,000 based on size. We were very surprised when the bidding stopped at
$131,000 with us a high bidder.
We took it to our new bank and the appraisal
came back at $163,000 with the home showing 1454 square feet. I went out and
measured the home and it is 1935 square feet. So I challenged the appraiser
and he went and measured the home himself.
We were right and the new
appraisal came back at $185,000. We only put $1800 down and closed. This was
March 17th of 2004.
My wife, our handyman and myself tackled the home for
the next 8 days. We had to replace all of the ceiling fans, light fixtures,
range, dishwasher, hot water tank, well pump, and microwave, paint the
entire inside and haul off all of the trash.
We spent including the down;
closing costs and repairs $12,000. I listed it on the market Friday March
26th for $189,900. We accepted an offer of $185,000 on March 31st with the
closing date set for April 30th. We were elated at this endeavor. We will
make around 170% profit on our money.
PROPERTY #18
We bought this property at the same time as #17 for $80,000. It appraised
for $94,500. We are still working on it. My wife is painting as I write this
letter. We expect a return of around 60% on our investment when we are
through.
PROPERTY #19
In the MLS I saw another lot for sale in the same neighborhood as #1. I made
a low ball offer and it was accepted. The bank did the appraisal and it came
back at $70,000. It will actually sell for around $85,000 but that’s ok
because I only paid $54,900 for it.
That means no money down at the bank,
plus I get a 5% commission on the sale which pays my first years payments.
We will close this one on April 16, 2004
PROPERTY #20
Can you believe it, my mom does not like living in the duplex. We made an
offer on another home in the same subdivision and it was accepted. Now we
can rent out the other side of the duplex for another $750. That is $1500 in
for $1102 going out.
PROPERTY #21
Lisa went to the upset bid auction at the court house on March 31st. She
bought another home for $72,500. It is the exact same home as #18 which we
paid $80,000.
This one is in the same shape and needs to be rehabbed as
well. We will close on this property by the end of the month. We expect to
make around 80% on our investment.
NOW FOR THE PROBLEM!!
Our challenge is our LLC’s and 1031 exchanges. As you advised we set up
LLC’s with our attorneys. The one for our long term rental properties is
Mountain Top LLC, because we want to retire on the top of a mountain in West
Virginia.
The one to hold our lots is named Pay Dirt LLC for obvious
reasons. The one for my partner and I that own properties #15, 17, 18 and
#21 is The James Gang Investments LLC.
We just sold #17 as I explained with it to close on April 30, 2004. We want
to 1031 exchange this property. Our problem is the bank which will allow us
to buy on appraised value and use the LLC name we are at our limit with
them.
This is our first year of doing business with them and the limit given
us is a $400,000 line of credit. When we close on #17 we will have around
$150,000 available, but need to spend $186,000. They will not go over the
$400,000 line.
We have not found another bank that will allow us to buy in
the name of an LLC. Also if I finance one of the homes that is under
construction and put it in to Mountain Top LLC and later want to refinance I
will have the same problem.
How do you avoid these challenges? We are on a
roll and do not want to come to a stop. Now is when we need some more of
your advice.
AND BESIDES THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!
My wife and I used to lay in bed as long a possible with 5 kids, and now we
wake up at 4:30 to 5:30 in the morning thinking about real estate deals to
be had and to take care of the ones we already have purchased.
We are going
to the auction again on April 5th, because I have another partner that wants
to give us money to buy homes. Your books and your team are AWESOME.
I will
be giving them for presents at Christmas this year. Our kids think we are
nuts. Our 11 year old thinks we collect houses. By the way we have not
played the “Cash Flow 101” game yet. Between my day job and our new
ventures, I barely have time to read and look through your web site.
We want to be able to financially retire when our youngest graduates high
school in 2014. Our goal is to have in excess of one hundred units bringing
in passive income so that we may continue to enjoy the lifestyle we live in
today. I am 43 and my wife is 42.
Sincerely,
Jim Smith
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